1 00:00:00,150 --> 00:00:18,810 [Music] 2 00:00:30,130 --> 00:00:27,970 hello friends and welcome to unknown I'm 3 00:00:30,609 --> 00:00:30,140 Jason McClellan thanks for hanging out 4 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:30,619 with me 5 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:37,760 welcome to 2018 feels great to be out of 6 00:00:49,660 --> 00:00:45,910 the affirmation from the Pentagon that 7 00:00:53,139 --> 00:00:49,670 operated a UFO program from 2007 to 2012 8 00:00:55,750 --> 00:00:53,149 capped off 2017 with an unexpected surge 9 00:00:58,450 --> 00:00:55,760 of interest in the topic of unidentified 10 00:01:00,010 --> 00:00:58,460 aerial phenomena we've seen all the 11 00:01:02,830 --> 00:01:00,020 major media outlets around the world 12 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:02,840 reporting on this story and adding 13 00:01:08,380 --> 00:01:06,530 individual spins we've also seen UFO 14 00:01:10,779 --> 00:01:08,390 researchers and others within the UFO 15 00:01:13,290 --> 00:01:10,789 community chiming in with personal 16 00:01:16,300 --> 00:01:13,300 thoughts and opinions about this story 17 00:01:19,180 --> 00:01:16,310 it's been a little surprising though not 18 00:01:21,669 --> 00:01:19,190 completely unexpected to see the lack of 19 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:21,679 basic UFO history knowledge by 20 00:01:26,320 --> 00:01:23,450 journalists reporting on the Pentagon 21 00:01:29,020 --> 00:01:26,330 UFO program story it's also been a 22 00:01:31,540 --> 00:01:29,030 little frustrating though again not too 23 00:01:33,820 --> 00:01:31,550 surprising to see journalists making 24 00:01:36,309 --> 00:01:33,830 assumptions focusing on the wrong 25 00:01:38,919 --> 00:01:36,319 elements of this story or missing the 26 00:01:41,050 --> 00:01:38,929 significance altogether it's clear that 27 00:01:43,980 --> 00:01:41,060 some basic public education regarding 28 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:43,990 the UFO topic is severely lacking and 29 00:01:49,089 --> 00:01:46,130 looking inward at the UFO research 30 00:01:51,910 --> 00:01:49,099 community it's easy to understand why 31 00:01:54,370 --> 00:01:51,920 the general public especially those with 32 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:54,380 a genuine interest in the topic of UFOs 33 00:01:59,139 --> 00:01:57,050 who search for more information can so 34 00:02:02,589 --> 00:01:59,149 easily find themselves confused and 35 00:02:05,830 --> 00:02:02,599 overwhelmed or just plain turned off to 36 00:02:07,540 --> 00:02:05,840 the whole topic we still have a long way 37 00:02:09,940 --> 00:02:07,550 to go where public education is 38 00:02:12,370 --> 00:02:09,950 concerned while some researchers are 39 00:02:14,589 --> 00:02:12,380 fixated on formulating conspiracy driven 40 00:02:16,570 --> 00:02:14,599 speculation about motives of government 41 00:02:19,290 --> 00:02:16,580 officials who publicly share information 42 00:02:21,220 --> 00:02:19,300 about UFOs arguing that UFOs are 43 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:21,230 interdimensional living beings and 44 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:23,510 getting hyper philosophical just to fill 45 00:02:27,850 --> 00:02:25,970 pages in books there's a huge chunk of 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:27,860 the population that still doesn't want 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:30,890 to accept the fact that our skies are 48 00:02:37,330 --> 00:02:34,610 filled with unidentifiable objects think 49 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:37,340 about that for a second while some UFO 50 00:02:40,660 --> 00:02:38,930 researchers are getting frustrated by 51 00:02:42,820 --> 00:02:40,670 the media's lack of knowledge on the 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:42,830 subject or the lingering presence of the 53 00:02:47,770 --> 00:02:44,810 ridicule factor surrounding the topic of 54 00:02:51,070 --> 00:02:47,780 UFOs many in the general public are 55 00:02:53,170 --> 00:02:51,080 still stuck at that initial step of even 56 00:02:55,540 --> 00:02:53,180 understanding that mysterious aerial 57 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:55,550 phenomena appears around the world every 58 00:03:00,100 --> 00:02:57,890 day has been studied by governments 59 00:03:02,500 --> 00:03:00,110 around the world and is a complete 60 00:03:04,510 --> 00:03:02,510 mystery but for those curious 61 00:03:06,850 --> 00:03:04,520 individuals who take that leap and 62 00:03:09,550 --> 00:03:06,860 attempt to look deeper into the UFO 63 00:03:12,640 --> 00:03:09,560 subject they quickly find a wild 64 00:03:15,340 --> 00:03:12,650 confusing world it's a world where 65 00:03:18,640 --> 00:03:15,350 researchers agree on little many profess 66 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:18,650 insider knowledge and some proudly claim 67 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:23,420 to know all the answers to some UFOs our 68 00:03:28,630 --> 00:03:25,730 interstellar craft piloted by visiting 69 00:03:31,509 --> 00:03:28,640 extraterrestrials others believe UFOs 70 00:03:33,610 --> 00:03:31,519 are biological entities yet others 71 00:03:34,229 --> 00:03:33,620 believe UFOs are visitors from another 72 00:03:37,150 --> 00:03:34,239 dimension 73 00:03:38,890 --> 00:03:37,160 some believe that evil extraterrestrials 74 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:38,900 control everything that happens on our 75 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:41,030 planet some believe that 76 00:03:45,910 --> 00:03:42,650 extraterrestrials have come to earth to 77 00:03:47,890 --> 00:03:45,920 save humanity and some believe that 78 00:03:51,069 --> 00:03:47,900 extraterrestrials have yet to make 79 00:03:53,470 --> 00:03:51,079 contact rest assured there's no shortage 80 00:03:57,310 --> 00:03:53,480 of burying quote unquote answers out 81 00:03:59,740 --> 00:03:57,320 there humans get bored easily we have 82 00:04:02,199 --> 00:03:59,750 short attention spans and we actively 83 00:04:05,470 --> 00:04:02,209 seek new things to entertain us and to 84 00:04:07,690 --> 00:04:05,480 feed our hunger for answers aside from 85 00:04:10,780 --> 00:04:07,700 the occasional reptilian infiltrators 86 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:10,790 like myself here only to spread 87 00:04:17,289 --> 00:04:13,610 disinformation the UFO community is 88 00:04:19,029 --> 00:04:17,299 comprised of humans so it's somewhat 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:19,039 understandable to see the constant 90 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:20,930 desire for new information in UFO 91 00:04:25,690 --> 00:04:23,510 research there are plenty of people out 92 00:04:28,230 --> 00:04:25,700 there who get frustrated and dismissive 93 00:04:30,909 --> 00:04:28,240 at the very mention of the word Roswell 94 00:04:32,260 --> 00:04:30,919 that's old news I already know 95 00:04:36,070 --> 00:04:32,270 everything there is to know about 96 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:36,080 Roswell stop wasting my time it's been 97 00:04:40,570 --> 00:04:38,390 fascinating observing the UFO field over 98 00:04:42,339 --> 00:04:40,580 the years several researchers have 99 00:04:43,980 --> 00:04:42,349 catered to appetites of those looking 100 00:04:45,870 --> 00:04:43,990 for new information 101 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:45,880 or different ways of thinking when it 102 00:04:50,370 --> 00:04:48,370 comes to the UFO topic some have 103 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:50,380 gradually moved away from topics like 104 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:52,810 documented historical cases and mass UFO 105 00:04:59,070 --> 00:04:55,650 sightings to topics like absurd 106 00:05:02,010 --> 00:04:59,080 unverifiable grand conspiracies and more 107 00:05:05,100 --> 00:05:02,020 philosophical sociological areas like 108 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:05,110 disclosure and consciousness don't get 109 00:05:09,750 --> 00:05:07,210 me wrong I'm glad there are people out 110 00:05:11,820 --> 00:05:09,760 there covering all the angles but I 111 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:11,830 definitely feel it's a misstep to leave 112 00:05:17,370 --> 00:05:14,320 the basics the fundamentals of UFO 113 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:17,380 research behind in the dust the UFO 114 00:05:23,670 --> 00:05:20,050 topic has been built up and severely 115 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:23,680 over complicated yes this is an 116 00:05:30,330 --> 00:05:27,130 incredibly complex subject but on its 117 00:05:33,570 --> 00:05:30,340 surface the UFO subject is much simpler 118 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:33,580 than many make it out to be to better 119 00:05:38,430 --> 00:05:35,890 explain what I mean here are my six 120 00:05:41,630 --> 00:05:38,440 suggestions for how to avoid over 121 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:41,640 complicating the complicated UFO topic 122 00:05:58,530 --> 00:05:55,710 number one don't overthink UFOs keep it 123 00:06:00,410 --> 00:05:58,540 simple stupid UFOs are a mystery and 124 00:06:03,390 --> 00:06:00,420 there's certainly not all the same 125 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:03,400 you're not gonna be able to put all UFOs 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:06,250 in one box some might be military 127 00:06:11,340 --> 00:06:09,490 aircraft some might be space debris some 128 00:06:13,730 --> 00:06:11,350 might be undiscovered atmospheric 129 00:06:17,460 --> 00:06:13,740 life-forms and some might be 130 00:06:21,650 --> 00:06:17,470 extraterrestrial visitors number two it 131 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:21,660 doesn't have to be a or B it can be both 132 00:06:25,740 --> 00:06:24,070 people routinely debate the nature of 133 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:25,750 UFOs or the intention of 134 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:28,450 extraterrestrial visitors people argue 135 00:06:31,890 --> 00:06:29,680 with each other about mysterious 136 00:06:34,650 --> 00:06:31,900 visitors being extraterrestrials versus 137 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:34,660 interdimensional z' people passionately 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:36,460 debate about alleged experiences with 139 00:06:41,940 --> 00:06:38,890 extraterrestrials some say they have had 140 00:06:44,370 --> 00:06:41,950 extremely negative experiences abducted 141 00:06:45,510 --> 00:06:44,380 against their will while others say they 142 00:06:47,250 --> 00:06:45,520 were willingly taken aboard 143 00:06:50,610 --> 00:06:47,260 extraterrestrial spacecraft and had 144 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:50,620 wonderful experiences and of course we 145 00:06:53,910 --> 00:06:51,970 have people saying if and when 146 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:53,920 extraterrestrials come to earth they 147 00:06:58,320 --> 00:06:55,810 will kill us and take all of our 148 00:06:59,880 --> 00:06:58,330 resources yep others say 149 00:07:02,100 --> 00:06:59,890 extraterrestrials are loving and 150 00:07:04,370 --> 00:07:02,110 peaceful and will just hang out with us 151 00:07:08,730 --> 00:07:04,380 and show us the path to a happy future 152 00:07:11,130 --> 00:07:08,740 so what's the right answer all of the 153 00:07:13,650 --> 00:07:11,140 above most likely there's presumably 154 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:13,660 lots of everything out there in our big 155 00:07:19,470 --> 00:07:16,300 weird universe it's pretty silly to 156 00:07:21,810 --> 00:07:19,480 assume that all UFOs are the same or all 157 00:07:24,090 --> 00:07:21,820 mysterious life-forms are the same or 158 00:07:26,580 --> 00:07:24,100 all visiting extraterrestrials come from 159 00:07:30,810 --> 00:07:26,590 one destination and all share the same 160 00:07:33,930 --> 00:07:30,820 motives so don't number three don't get 161 00:07:36,290 --> 00:07:33,940 hung up on trends or buzzwords this is a 162 00:07:38,420 --> 00:07:36,300 big area where I feel the UFO field 163 00:07:42,210 --> 00:07:38,430 unnecessarily over complicates things 164 00:07:44,190 --> 00:07:42,220 terms like paradigm shift and shift in 165 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:44,200 consciousness are regularly thrown 166 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:47,320 around a paradigm shift or a shift in 167 00:07:50,820 --> 00:07:49,330 consciousness is simply what happens 168 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:50,830 when you learn something you didn't know 169 00:07:55,860 --> 00:07:53,410 before I believe it was Peter lavinda 170 00:07:57,870 --> 00:07:55,870 who said on this show that people have a 171 00:07:59,940 --> 00:07:57,880 paradigm shift every time McDonald's 172 00:08:01,709 --> 00:07:59,950 releases a new burger there's a paradigm 173 00:08:03,959 --> 00:08:01,719 shift every time we learn of a new 174 00:08:06,979 --> 00:08:03,969 on Game of Thrones we find out who won 175 00:08:10,049 --> 00:08:06,989 the latest Super Bowl and Disclosure 176 00:08:12,539 --> 00:08:10,059 sure a grand formal announcement from a 177 00:08:14,369 --> 00:08:12,549 government saying attention world we are 178 00:08:15,989 --> 00:08:14,379 announcing that we recovered a crash 179 00:08:18,569 --> 00:08:15,999 spacecraft along with its 180 00:08:22,079 --> 00:08:18,579 extraterrestrial pilot would be pretty 181 00:08:24,869 --> 00:08:22,089 cool but as is illustrated time and time 182 00:08:26,999 --> 00:08:24,879 again people especially within the UFO 183 00:08:28,529 --> 00:08:27,009 community aren't going to fully believe 184 00:08:31,769 --> 00:08:28,539 information that comes from government 185 00:08:34,579 --> 00:08:31,779 sources and just because the government 186 00:08:36,959 --> 00:08:34,589 announces something about UFOs and/or 187 00:08:39,119 --> 00:08:36,969 extraterrestrials that certainly 188 00:08:41,189 --> 00:08:39,129 wouldn't be the end all the answer to 189 00:08:46,110 --> 00:08:41,199 all the questions and mysteries of all 190 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:46,120 UFOs number four remain objective it 191 00:08:50,449 --> 00:08:47,920 could be extremely easy to let yourself 192 00:08:53,460 --> 00:08:50,459 be swayed by quote-unquote experts 193 00:08:56,610 --> 00:08:53,470 authors lecturers and people you see on 194 00:08:59,519 --> 00:08:56,620 TV especially if those people are saying 195 00:09:01,559 --> 00:08:59,529 the things you want to hear we naturally 196 00:09:04,199 --> 00:09:01,569 gravitate toward individuals with whom 197 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:04,209 we share common interests and ideals so 198 00:09:09,329 --> 00:09:06,910 it makes sense that we do that within 199 00:09:11,759 --> 00:09:09,339 the UFO community as well although it's 200 00:09:12,689 --> 00:09:11,769 no easy task it's really important to 201 00:09:15,509 --> 00:09:12,699 remain objective 202 00:09:17,429 --> 00:09:15,519 taking in information from all sides in 203 00:09:20,220 --> 00:09:17,439 order to make properly informed 204 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:20,230 decisions there are no quote-unquote 205 00:09:25,530 --> 00:09:22,480 experts when it comes to a complicated 206 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:25,540 topic like UFOs don't blindly believe or 207 00:09:29,579 --> 00:09:27,970 accept everything that someone says just 208 00:09:32,220 --> 00:09:29,589 because they've written 20 books about 209 00:09:35,549 --> 00:09:32,230 UFOs or because you always see them on 210 00:09:37,290 --> 00:09:35,559 TV talking about UFOs yeah there are 211 00:09:39,269 --> 00:09:37,300 lots of people out there who have done 212 00:09:42,210 --> 00:09:39,279 lots of great research over the years 213 00:09:44,670 --> 00:09:42,220 and it's good information to consider in 214 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:44,680 your own exploration of the UFO topic 215 00:09:49,860 --> 00:09:47,769 but remaining objective is key if you 216 00:09:52,499 --> 00:09:49,870 really hope to gain any insight into 217 00:09:54,629 --> 00:09:52,509 this bizarre subject if you're just 218 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:54,639 looking for people to tell you what you 219 00:09:59,429 --> 00:09:57,490 want to hear though unfortunately there 220 00:10:00,950 --> 00:09:59,439 are plenty of people who are happy to do 221 00:10:04,990 --> 00:10:00,960 just that 222 00:10:08,600 --> 00:10:05,000 number five understand that UFOs are 223 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:08,610 frustrating I see lots of people young 224 00:10:13,269 --> 00:10:10,970 and old who begin their bright-eyed 225 00:10:16,010 --> 00:10:13,279 optimistic dive into the UFO subject 226 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:16,020 they're eager for all their questions to 227 00:10:20,269 --> 00:10:16,560 be answered 228 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:20,279 and when those answers don't come they 229 00:10:25,490 --> 00:10:23,430 quickly become frustrated again that's 230 00:10:29,470 --> 00:10:25,500 the nature of this strange mysterious 231 00:10:31,340 --> 00:10:29,480 subject in most cases there are dancers 232 00:10:35,060 --> 00:10:31,350 certainly not easy or straightforward 233 00:10:36,680 --> 00:10:35,070 answers unfortunately this frustration 234 00:10:39,199 --> 00:10:36,690 is what makes those who claim to have 235 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:39,209 all the answers so appealing to people 236 00:10:46,070 --> 00:10:43,620 hungry for answers in number six you 237 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:46,080 don't need to defend ufology it's 238 00:10:49,310 --> 00:10:47,610 somewhat common to see people posting 239 00:10:51,260 --> 00:10:49,320 their disgust on Facebook at how 240 00:10:53,630 --> 00:10:51,270 reporters on a local newscast delivered 241 00:10:55,730 --> 00:10:53,640 a story about a UFO sighting these 242 00:10:57,769 --> 00:10:55,740 people complain about how the story was 243 00:11:00,019 --> 00:10:57,779 introduced with the x-files theme song 244 00:11:02,990 --> 00:11:00,029 and how the reporters laughed and joked 245 00:11:05,030 --> 00:11:03,000 about anal probes in addition to the 246 00:11:07,250 --> 00:11:05,040 frustration these people feel for having 247 00:11:09,740 --> 00:11:07,260 a serious topic like UFOs treated as a 248 00:11:11,780 --> 00:11:09,750 joke they also voiced their concern that 249 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:11,790 this type of public mockery will 250 00:11:16,430 --> 00:11:13,680 negatively affect the field of ethology 251 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:16,440 as a whole others have the same fear 252 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:18,480 anytime anything ufo-related is 253 00:11:22,910 --> 00:11:20,610 presented in a negative light or when 254 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:22,920 known UFO hoaxers or scammers receive 255 00:11:27,079 --> 00:11:24,810 any kind of mainstream media attention 256 00:11:29,420 --> 00:11:27,089 those in the UFO field who feel 257 00:11:31,850 --> 00:11:29,430 threatened or bullied by ridicule or 258 00:11:34,699 --> 00:11:31,860 negative reporting by the media need to 259 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:34,709 keep in mind that humans aren't always 260 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:38,250 going to be supportive receptive or even 261 00:11:43,370 --> 00:11:41,370 civil ridicule is an unavoidable human 262 00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:43,380 response to ideas that challenge or 263 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:45,570 conflict with the tightly held beliefs 264 00:11:50,470 --> 00:11:48,450 of others sure negative and/or 265 00:11:52,970 --> 00:11:50,480 inaccurate reports by media outlets 266 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:52,980 contribute to negative stereotypes and 267 00:11:58,370 --> 00:11:56,130 spread misinformation and although all 268 00:12:00,310 --> 00:11:58,380 scientific fields deal with ridicule and 269 00:12:02,660 --> 00:12:00,320 inaccurate reporting of data 270 00:12:06,050 --> 00:12:02,670 ufology probably gets more than its fair 271 00:12:07,699 --> 00:12:06,060 share but rather than sitting in the 272 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:07,709 corner grumbling about how mainstream 273 00:12:13,819 --> 00:12:11,130 media is hurting ufology it really 274 00:12:14,540 --> 00:12:13,829 benefits UFO researchers to move beyond 275 00:12:17,269 --> 00:12:14,550 this mind 276 00:12:19,310 --> 00:12:17,279 of a dejected teenager and accept the 277 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:19,320 challenges rejections and ridicule that 278 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:21,510 come with studying such an enigmatic and 279 00:12:27,170 --> 00:12:24,930 controversial subject as UFOs if the 280 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:27,180 existing evidence supporting UFOs as a 281 00:12:32,870 --> 00:12:30,450 subject worthy of scientific study is as 282 00:12:36,019 --> 00:12:32,880 strong as UFO researchers myself 283 00:12:38,329 --> 00:12:36,029 included believe that it is then bad 284 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:38,339 media reports aren't worth losing any 285 00:12:51,380 --> 00:12:41,850 sleep over ufology is going to be just 286 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:51,390 fine well there you go 287 00:12:55,069 --> 00:12:53,250 those are my quick six suggestions for 288 00:12:59,300 --> 00:12:55,079 how to avoid over complicating the 289 00:13:01,040 --> 00:12:59,310 complicated UFO topic but ultimately you 290 00:13:04,910 --> 00:13:01,050 have to figure out what works best for 291 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:04,920 you it's a wild and crazy world this 292 00:13:09,769 --> 00:13:07,740 world of UFO research I think one of the 293 00:13:12,470 --> 00:13:09,779 most important things to keep in mind is 294 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:12,480 that it's okay that every researcher in 295 00:13:18,079 --> 00:13:15,570 the UFO field doesn't agree it would be 296 00:13:20,269 --> 00:13:18,089 pretty weird if they did again although 297 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:20,279 this subject relies primarily on 298 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:23,910 personal belief it's not a religion we 299 00:13:28,699 --> 00:13:26,130 aren't all obligated to believe the same 300 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:28,709 things and we shouldn't believe the same 301 00:13:32,690 --> 00:13:31,110 things it's important to always keep in 302 00:13:34,819 --> 00:13:32,700 mind that this is an extremely 303 00:13:38,030 --> 00:13:34,829 mysterious topic and we're all searching 304 00:13:41,210 --> 00:13:38,040 for answers and there isn't one magical 305 00:13:42,980 --> 00:13:41,220 answer if you are a UFO researcher I 306 00:13:45,769 --> 00:13:42,990 encourage you to always keep an open 307 00:13:48,610 --> 00:13:45,779 mind consider other viewpoints and at 308 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:48,620 the very least be respectful of others 309 00:13:52,519 --> 00:13:50,550 considering other viewpoints and 310 00:13:55,069 --> 00:13:52,529 treating other researchers as 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